Getting feedback on your playing

I recently got a promotional email from Jeff Schneider. You may know him from some of his interesting YouTube instructional videos. He was talking about how many takes he had to do to get a video down like he wanted. I won’t share the video or the links he has trying to sell some courses. But as he rambles in the following, he brings up a very good point–you need to get feedback on your playing. I hope you find this helpful. :musical_keyboard: His comments follow:

I was reminded of an important lesson every musician needs to hear…

Including you.

Ready? Here it is:

You HAVE to record yourself.

“Yeah, Jeff. You’ve told us that one before.”

Indeed. But wait, there’s more…

You HAVE to record yourself a little at a time and listen back frequently.

Oh, and there’s more…

You HAVE to record yourself a little at a time and listen back frequently and record the same excerpt again but this time with a style or technique adjustment.

And one more for the road…

You HAVE to record yourself a little at a time and listen back frequently and record the same excerpt again but this time with a style or technique adjustment and then listen back AGAIN to hear if your adjustment made things better or worse.

Why is this process so essential?

Because in order to become good at something, you need feedback.

And by feedback I mean a clear indication that what you’re doing is either working or not.

Unfortunately, musicians don’t get a lot of this kind of feedback, especially in the practice room.

And this is true for two reasons:

  1. Music is not as measurable as other pursuits.

In sports, you’re either a winner or a loser.

In math, you’re right or wrong.

In construction, your verticals are either plumb, or they’re not.

But in music, good/bad is more subjective.

Here’s the other reason that musicians don’t get sufficient, quality feedback.

  1. It’s extremely difficult for musicians to accurately assess their playing while they’re playing.

For example, when I was recording all of those singing takes, I thought some were stellar. But when I listened back, it was clear that the adjustments I’d made to my technique and style were, in fact, making me sound worse.

And I would never have known had I not recorded myself and listened back.

What’s more? Had I recorded myself for a whole bunch of takes instead of just a few, it would have taken that much longer for me to realize the error of my ways.

It’s scary to think I could have been practicing sounding bad for who knows how long.

Luckily, it’s an easily avoidable situation.

So, please put this nugget to use…

Get out that voice memo app on your phone and hit record.

Start small. No more than 30 seconds.

Listen back.

How do you sound?

Not as good as you’d like?

Make an adjustment.


Get creative.

Then record the same excerpt and assess whether that adjustment made you sound better or worse.

Here’s another pro-tip: Grab a reference track by one of your musical heroes.

Record yourself imitating a tiny excerpt from the reference.

Listen back.

Compare and contrast your recording to the original.

Rinse and repeat and repeat and repeat.

I’m not saying it’s easy. But it sure is simple.

And it works.


Really good post! Thanks for sharing Scott. Lol my voice recorder app on phone and ipad are overloaded haha… with bits of recordings!
But what you posted is going to be very useful cos I have probably tried only a few times, I’d like to really make time for this one for specific songs or song sections and I know this is going to be very interesting!!! :grin: Thanks for the tips :star_struck:

Recently I used to keep listening to/watching for example- the full performance of the song in the lessons , separately from watching the lesson explanations/ song breakdown - I’m currently working on Georgia (almost forever polishing especially on page 2 haha) then I also started with Pure Imagination

I will make sure to record bits and pieces of my practice and study (especially on the very difficult parts - maybe all of them haha) for these songs! and see the difference and my progress :blush:

Hi Scott,
Thanks for posting this! I have been experimenting recording and self feedback recently and this really drives the point. I just joined PianoGroove and am quickly finding little golden nuggets to up my playing. This one really hit home with me and I couldn’t agree more.
Again, thanks for sharing.

Hi @scottm1100.

Welcome to PianoGroove! I’m glad you found some use in this post. I have a Roland RD-2000 hooked up through Logic Pro. I use it as a MIDI controller to play the Vienna Symphonic Library’s Synchron Concert [Steinway] D-274.

One of the best things about Logic Pro is its Capture Recording feature. You can obviously hit Record and play. But consider this scenario that I lifted from the website mentioned below:

what if you have just played your perfect Track, it was your best performance and your producer yells out “Oh my God” with a very satisfied look on his face, and you forgot to hit the Record Button? No problem. You click a button and a new Region with what you have played magically appears … you are safe. This magic button on the Control Bar is the “Capture Recording Button”. It is hidden by default from the Transport Controls section, so you have to make it visible first (unless you use the Key Command shift+R).

Whatever you play–good or bad–can be reviewed immediately. Then you can edit and save the good bits for future reference if you choose. I listen to a lot of garbage at the end of each session–but sometimes I come across something of interest that I export as a MIDI file and save to my library’s “Maybe” file.

You may already know of this feature. Just in case, here’s an explanatory link. Enjoy! :musical_keyboard:

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Hi Scott!

I use a Yamaha CP88 also hooked up to Logic Pro. I was totally unaware of the Capture Recording feature and will check it out - thanks for that! Sometimes I record from my phone for quick review. Other times I use the DAW, but that can be distracting depending on what I’m working on. For sure, there have been times I wish I captured something I didn’t hit record on, so maybe this will help.

Thanks for the warm welcome. I Had a call with Hayden this morning. He’s awesome and provided great advice. I’m excited to be part of this community - the previous platform I was on did not have good community support which is very important to me.

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